Himalayan monals in Australia??

tragopan · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:38 pm

Does anyone know if we still have Himalayan Monals in Australia?
I remembered seeing a pair of these magnificant birds in Taronga Zoo about 15 years ago, but never seen another Monal in Australia since.

Another question would be is the fact that we are now only left with a handfull of pheasant species in Australia and very much in need of new blood lines for species like the Siamese Fireback which are getting harder to breed with.
I saw last year in Thailand some Firebacks who where quite a bit larger in size as the ones I have seen in Australian avaries. Probably a sign of inbreeding.
Does anyone know if there will be a possibility, now or in the future to import new blood of existing species already in captivity in Australia and new species to add to our diversity.

If we could get permission from the authorities to import pheasants this would be a of huge benefit for our hobby and for the continuing conservation of these birds.

comments most appreciated

tragopan

chevron182 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:49 am

Hello,
I believe that there is a total ban on import and export of all birds to and from Australia. Which is a shame for our breeding stock. It would be cool to be able to get some of the mutations from overseas here!
Cheers

Peacocks Australia · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2002 9:14 am **Posts:** 310755

Hi all, Yes Chevron183 is right Importation and Exportation to and from Australia is Prohibited. Your right it is a shame as we really need the new blood. As tragopan pointed out Especially Firebacks as we are having to line breed. I work within QLD Law Enforcment and there is nothing in the pipeline regards lifting the Ban!

Let hope one day the Issues can be overcome?

Thanks

Peacocks Australia :lol:

Guest · **Posted:** Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:01 pm

Hi Guys,

I believe that we have to put pressure on the authorities to allow us to bring in fresh blood lines to conserve the species we have in Australia and widen the gene pool from which we can extract good breeding pairs.

Besides looking after the species we currently have, the governement should allow us to import other species of pheasants.
This should be part of a global commitment, to have enought pheasants spread around the world in captivity from which we can draw, to conserve these species from extinction in their native habitat.

As Australia has always claimed to be part of Asia and being an enviromental responsible country, it should play its part in the conservation of the birds of this part of the world.

I hope that one day the governement will see our conservation efforts and that we will be able to import the birds we so badly need to keep up the good work.

Besides Australia would be a perfect country to protect our Pheasants since we do not have as much problems with diseases as our European and American breeders.

tragopan

Peacocks Australia · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2002 9:14 am **Posts:** 310755

Well said Tragopan and well put!

Thanks
Peacocks Australia :lol:

shavalgen · **Joined:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:00 pm **Posts:** 4

It is actually possible to bring in fertile eggs so long as they go through the Torrens Island facility or a minister approved private facility. The commercial guys get first dibs and a group of poultry fanciers are trying to organise the first importation for 2009 which is the next slot available to use Torrens Island. It's expensive and the commercial guys don't really want fanciers to bring in new lines. I have been in contact with AQIS and Biosecurity Australia on and off for the past few years and there are quite a few hoops to jump through and the amount red tape is mind bogging. But it is possible.

Peacocks Australia · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2002 9:14 am **Posts:** 310755

Thanks for the Info Shavalgen, Hope this comes off, I'd like to get on board if it happens?

Thanks
Peacocks Australia :lol:

tragopan · **Posted:** Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:10 pm

Hi Shavalgan,

I know that its possible to import fertile eggs but wonder what the costs would be. And does it matter if you have say 50 or 150 eggs or would it cost the same.
What kind of quarantine is required ect.

Live birds would probably a better alternative if you look at the survival rates but I could be wrong.

I also have been told that some chicken fancier with deep pockets did import eggs.

replies appreciated

tragopan

garbage2 · **Joined:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:59 pm **Posts:** 184

I belive this does cost Thousands (per person).......a syndicate was formed,the eggs are bought in and were supposed to be hatched in S.A (i think)

But there was the turkey farm bird flu out break over there so they dont think it will be going ahead now.

there is an actual forum for this,i belive Byhookorchook (is he a member here) would be able to share alot more infomation.....

Kai

Peacocks Australia · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2002 9:14 am **Posts:** 310755

We have & are continuing to work on a submission for the Importation of fertile eggs but it is a very long winded & complex issue. The byhookchook is not a Member at this stage, but sounds like he should be?

Thanks
Peacocks Australia :lol:

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