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 Post subject: Re: dont be too quick to knock the imported chicks
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:13 pm 
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Good if you think putting peoples reputation up for critiscism but I accept thats your point of view. Back to cost of parcels. To get 20 shoe stopper exhibits from each parcel that would take a selection process at each syage plus going from volunteer to paid staff. Expect that no change out of twice the price as a minimum. Thoughts ?


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 Post subject: Re: dont be too quick to knock the imported chicks
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byhookorchook wrote:
Good if you think putting peoples reputation up for critiscism but I accept thats your point of view

No thats your point of view and well known.

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shoe stopper exhibits

I guess you mean show stoppers and no one here has mentioned "show stoppers", don't over dramatize in the hope to silence opinions as that will not work, not by a long shot.


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 Post subject: Re: dont be too quick to knock the imported chicks
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:37 pm 
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jon_borleis_voigt wrote:
Time will definitely tell. From Dr Spackmans team of mainly volunteers to acquiring the eggs of the source flock to them laying and producibg the guaranteed show quality stock from rhose eggs one would be aware of the potential for fowl to go slightly backwards within a tolerance becauze there is not a wide range of progeny to select from. However it tarnishes all the people who did their best before the fowl are even out to be so desparagingly speculative. I maintain it is impossible to know lest you`ve actually seen not heard. Anyway thats my opinion. I have all day to discuss it

Can you tell the forum about Dr Spackmans team experience other than a vet, how many champion is shows has he won? how long has he been breeding champion fowl? what standard did they use to choose the show stock Uk or Aust? where are the pictures of the parent stock? and any other information you have?

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 Post subject: Re: dont be too quick to knock the imported chicks
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Good questions crestedbreed :-D looking forward to reading the details from Jon




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 Post subject: Re: dont be too quick to knock the imported chicks
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I would love to see the UK fowls used to produce the eggs. Can Jon or byhooknchook or anyone point me to the ARPIS web site so I can view all the pictures please


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 Post subject: Re: dont be too quick to knock the imported chicks
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No didn't think so, thanks fowlman I wonder how they expect people to buy parcels of eggs from fowls no one can see


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 Post subject: Re: dont be too quick to knock the imported chicks
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Yokohama Stud wrote:
I wonder how they expect people to buy parcels of eggs from fowls no one can see


Isn't that what everyone does that purchases eggs off people over the Internet? :?:

I see adds on the Internet for people asking to purchase eggs for certain breeds all the time.

How is this any different?


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 Post subject: Re: dont be too quick to knock the imported chicks
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The cost
The time frame
The effort to import

BIG difference and there is no come back unlike local eggs


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 Post subject: Re: dont be too quick to knock the imported chicks
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FowlMan wrote:
On the subject of "genetically diverse birds" and those bring them in for that sole purpose I say be careful what you wish for.

If we look again at the Budgerigar imports in the past and the "genetic diversity" then many would tell you they got more than they bargained for. Some imports bred 100% severe French moult offspring and Chrysanthemum offspring all of which are useless to the breeder so lets not be to quick to just want "genetically diverse birds" they must be sound genetically and not poor culls.

Well explained Fowlman here and in the other topic on the forum


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