Cinnamon Guinea-Fowl - Topic 2

Neds · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:22 am

Seems qld is the place to buy the guineas from actually all birds from all my readings maybe we should be call the bird state

NightMare · **Posted:** Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:24 pm

I think you maybe right there. I need to move I think

DarlingdownsGF · **Joined:** Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:55 pm **Posts:** 5

I move here [qld] 5 years ago from NSW and found all the fowls I wanted in two weeks of arriving so I have to agree all the breeders of the quality and variety are here

Ace · **Posted:** Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:59 pm

I think the guys in Qld are more intune with the genetics and understand the types of fowl like guineas and peafowl thats why all the best quality and new colours come out of Qld

NightMare · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:09 pm

Yep for sure there Ace [smilie=a_goodjobson.gif]

Ace · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:11 pm

And I should ad if it was not for PA I would not have the guineas I have today especially the reverse pieds in silver, cinnamons, creams and whites so a massive thanks PA

NightMare · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 9:26 pm

Lucky you

and [smilie=thanks.gif]

PA

GuineasofPerth · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:26 pm

Hi guys its been awhile, sorry busy with work in the north west.

Ok do you guys remember this post Tue Apr 19, 2011

GuineasofPerth wrote:

I saw this and decided to add my experience with so called split to cinnamon. I purchased off the internet and paid to have them sent all the way over here so called split cinnamon guinea fowls in both males and females and was told to breed them together and I would breed some cinnamons well 2 years latter and 69 chicks latter and no cinnamons have come they are all grey and lavender. I have asked a few good breeders about why and they have all told me there is no such thing and a split to cinnamon female and unless I get a cinnamon female or a silver female I will never breed them. So I have ordered 2 cinnamon females and will then hopefully breed some. So my advice to people is beware of these claims I think some are just out for the money.

Well I decided to keep these together and see if I ever bred a cinnamon from them and yes I did 1 cinnamon keet hen. Now I also added 3 more so called split cinnamon hens all lavender to this group of ALL splits so its a sizeable flock now and ALL splits {hold the laughter}

So to answer the question on the recessive V sex linked well here is 100% proof they are not recessive. If they were recessive then hens could be split to cinnamon as can the cockbirds right!

So breeding split cinnamon to split cinnamon = 50% cinnamon offspring both sexes

Lets look at the number 50%

Now from last year to this year I have bred 184 keet from these 'so called splits' and only 1 cinnamon keet hen YES 1 only, so its cannot be recessive its not possible or I would have around 80-90

Now with sex linked I would get the odd cinnamon hen from a pairing of split cinnamon to non split hen lavender but the % is very low so this proves none of these so called split hens are actually split at all and remember ALL were guaranteed splits in both sexes yes guaranteed and the last 3 hens also came from Qld north of brisbane and guaranteed split so nether breeder have any idea what so ever.

carisle · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:33 pm

Interesting, I have no understanding of genetics so loving this topic on real genetics

than657

GuineasofPerth · **Posted:** Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:54 am

No you have that wrong as statistically split to split (if recessive) WILL produce cinnamon at the 25% or more it has to be that way IF they were split. On the other hand sex linked does not have to produce any as the % is not fixed because you only have the cockbird split as hens cannot be split so looking at my controlled study closely you will see the recessive theory is not possible assuming both are split as guaranteed. I know Tim has also done a similar controlled study so I have asked him to post his findings

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